burritodan wrote:
I have been promising a new site for 3 months now! I realize this is open source, and nobody wants a buggy piece of software - but this is getting a little ridiculous and highly frustrating!

Post edited by: burritodan, at: 2008/05/27 17:30[/quote]

if i have read through the forum and understood it correctly there is no use to postpone any projects because cb1.2 is not out yet. just start off with 1.1 and then update to cb1.2 once it's available.

of course, this shouldn't take any pressure from the developers here to work 7/24 without pause to give us a great x-mas present way before x-mas actually is around!

really looking forward to the new cb1.2!! everybody get well soon!! and also get some rest (that's actually what i'm doing right now).

Hi Beat,

first of all: Get well soon and take breaks and enjoy your real life away from 0 and 1 Keep the balance.



As I already said I agree with you that jQuery is much better . And because of features like noConflict() and many more fine grained design I do not understand why Joomla! devs decided to take mootools That they censored your post at mootools is really unbelivable and I would too turn around and go away. Heard that and the relatively small overhead of < 20 kb with jQuery I can understand why you decided to use jQuery. Good decision and I hope they can coexist without hard to find buggy behaviour.

Greets!

Post edited by: ndee, at: 2008/05/28 01:28

snoeby wrote:


This is exactly the problem with how the info was given out...

It'll be out in a few weeks (not months), It'll be out shortly, We're almost done, It will be out in April, It's almost done - final release, Next week etc etc

When undertaking a project (a new website) you try to make decisions based on what's expected. If I (and many many others) would have known it was going to be 5 months instead of 3 weeks; alternate plans could have been made.

If this was a paid development project the project manager would have been getting chewed out (and maybe worse) for not meeting the dates that they set themselves multiple times.

I will re-iterate again... so a few of you can stop flaming...
Yes - I know it's open source.
Yes - I know they are not getting paid very much.
Yes - I know they are working hard.

Beat, Nant and everyone involved have done an awesome job in the past, and I am sure CB1.2 will be GREAT! - This is meant only as constructive criticism. If everyone continues to say "everything is perfect" then they don't know what to improve.

That's it - plain and simple.

Carry on.

Beat,

Thank you for the steady supply of info on the testing process and release expectations. I am sure there are many people like me who will be paying the doc fee as soon as a solid RC is out. I hope you will fix your payment process so that I receive a full year for my money, instead of only the six months remaining in 2008. In my experience running subscription-based sites you will do much better in the long run if people perceive that they are receiving full value from the beginning.

Regarding your estimates, I would like to share some concepts used in my projects. I believe it might be good to start thinking in terms of three targets:

Minimum effort required to test and certify
Expected effort, including some rework and retesting
Contingency for unexpected roadbumps

Expected effort should generally be 1.5 to 2 times minimum effort. Given your short list I'd set that at double the minimum expectation. Contigency time should be very large at the beginning of a project, and shrink to 15% after feature lock and first beta.

Thanks again for all your effort and hard work, I'm sure it will pay off!

This is a great news, i will definitelly subscribe for the new version!

The idea of having options for user to change the color, background,..etc of their profile is what made me subscribe and pay the ~50.

Aweson guys!

It hurts to watch all of the flaming. If you have never developed a website before, you might not know that it is usually wise to go with what you have rather than what might be coming in a few (days, weeks months).

Other OS developers will revise and release weekly. Is that what you want for CB? If so, you're crazy. CB is a platform, not a widget. It is in EVERYONES interest that revisions be INFREQUENT and that each revision be as feature rich and bugfree as possible.

Baby steps would KILL CB and everyone who uses it.

Beat and Nant are smart enough to know this and to do the right thing, regardless of the NOISE and TAUNTS coming from the peanut gallery.

Be real everyone. we are on the eve of the first doc subscriber release (speaking metaphorically, if not literally). Pay the doc subscription, and hold your breath for an exhilarating ride.

a CB fan.